Vanessa Fitzgerald: NRT, Finding Your Person, Ayahuasca, and Radical Responsibility

Sep 02, 2025

Katie and Sam kick things off by exploring the overlap between AI and spirituality: intuition versus technology, the noise of modern life, and whether robots could ever replace gut instinct (or become our grandchildren’s boyfriends and girlfriends?!). From there, Sam sits down solo with healer Vanessa Fitzgerald (@veeshoney) for a deep dive into NRT, radical responsibility, ayahuasca journeys, and what it really takes to heal. They cover supplements, emotional blocks, and how finding your person can transform your path. This one blends the practical with the profound, and leaves you rethinking where true healing begins.

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Timestamps & Resources: 

  • 9:28 What is NRT? Vanessa breaks down Nutrition Response Testing (NRT): applied kinesiology, how it works, why the nervous system must be “online,” and what makes it different from other healing modalities.
  • 35:15 Vanessa’s personal healing journey: Ayahuasca, Hoffman, Joe Dispenza, astral therapy, journaling, and how she avoids “medical tourism” or over-spiritualizing everything.

Credits

  • Hosted by: Samantha Blatz & Katie Suiters
  • Guest: Vanessa Fitzgerald,  @veeshoney, VeesHoney
  • Produced by: Borderline Media Company (Scott Schafer, Greg Wolfson, Michael Brown, and Michael Peloquin)
  • Music, editing & art by Borderline; additional vibes by the whole Under Coven crew

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