Oct 21, 2025
This week, Sam and Katie dig into relationships as a spiritual practice: from a ketamine-assisted meditation that reframed “purpose” as unconditional love, to the “meeting place” visualization, to how attachment styles show up in marriage, friendship, and work. They get honest about how Sam’s relationship with her brother is transcending timelines, boundaries, resentment, deep-talk vs small-talk, and how the people around you mirror what you most need to heal.
This week, Sam and Katie dig into relationships as a spiritual practice: from a ketamine-assisted meditation that reframed “purpose” as unconditional love, to the “meeting place” visualization, to how attachment styles show up in marriage, friendship, and work. They get honest about how Sam’s relationship with her brother is transcending timelines, boundaries, resentment, deep-talk vs small-talk, and how the people around you mirror what you most need to heal.
Show Notes:
00:00 Welcome in to the Coven
02:07 Sam’s “assisted” meditation
04:54 The “meeting place” visualization explained
06:01 Big reveal: from “light” to unconditional love
17:42 Our partnership as a growth mirror
20:54 “Grading” the relationship buckets (wife, mom, friend)
27:44 The ripple effect of your inner circle
46:43 Attachment styles
58:11 Friendship audit: effort, energy, depth vs. small talk
1:06:30 Wrap-up, gratitude, love note
Credits
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